Cosign, you're 200% done? Is that like, 100% done being 100% done because that comes down to 0%. What a spectacularly dumb thing to say. Fail.
Stereotypes exist because large segments of certain populations act in ways that stand out and they always have. Blacks, gays, Jews, Irish, Italians, Mexicans, so forth and so on have all had defining characteristics that have stood out. Blacks appear to be the only group that lets the politicians, lawyers, and media deceive them into thinking it's the stereotypes that hold them back instead of their own actions. And the majority doesn't need stereotypes to "keep those pesky minorities in line", their own actions seem to do that just fine.
No I didn't quote Bill Cosby but I should have. He seems to have done pretty well for himself, I don't think it's any coincidence that you're a big whiner and you disagree with him. From what I've read, Cosby is a big believer in personal responsibility and that's tough to argue with.
"we are black and expendable." Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh. LOFL.
I didn't even mention "reverse racism". I think you got stuck somewhere in that BS black power script you have running in your head. Moron.
I cited Wikipedia and then suggested researching further. And yeah, I'd like to see something backing up these claims of widespread oppression because I call BS. "Everyone knows the white man keeps us down flooding our neighborhoods with drugs" doesn't really sell me on anything except your gullibility. Everyone knows, yeah, okay. Everyone knows cucumbers taste better pickled.
The Trayvon case took the news because they were trying to sell gun control. They posted a picture of your hero TM when he was 14, doctored the 911 audio tape, edited the video tape of GZ at the police station, and these FACTS were the least of their slant. You were all fooled, and so easily it was sad. Want to see some interesting other facts (I'm sure you don't) watch the following. Canadian media, they don't have a large black population to pander to:
The kid was a loser, they sold him as a saint. He didn't deserve to die, but neither did Zimmerman, and the dumb thug went to a gunfight without a gun.
I'm not worth your time. Yeah, because I'm not buying the bunk you're selling. Come on back whenever you have some facts you'd like to discuss and not some line of crap sermon you've clearly been brainwashed with.
The excuses would have validity 50 to 100 years ago. They don't hold water anymore. If anything, African Americans have more opportunities than any race in this country. Employers bend over backward to appear diverse and hire african americans even when they are not as qualified for jobs. Trust me, I've personally interviewed direct reports and have been pushed by human resources to hire the African American applicant over a more qualified one. I fight back to hire the qualified one. I'm happy to see that affirmative action bans are going to upheld in the supreme court. It's about time.
What would be refreshing is to hear more African Americans talk about working hard, getting an education, and earning their living. There are plenty who do, but unfortunately, the African American community values sports and a street lifestyle in many areas over education and work and even makes fun of those who do strive for excellence and become professionals.
Time to move on. Slavery was 150 years ago, I wasn't around, my parents weren't around, my grandparents and so on weren't around. It was a tragedy, but now you have had years with many programs in place to give African Americans opportunities, many of which have squandered. My people were once persecuted and killed to the brink of extinction, yet I don't use that as a crutch.
200% done with seeing shit like this everywhere I go, and I am taking it out on you.
Stereotypes exist so the majority can file away the minority in predictable, convenient, and seemingly easier categories. Because surely, stereotypes can't be individuals with their own minds, right? And they MUST be true, right!? It's not like they're there to keep those pesky minorities in line or anything. (Calling it now! You're just going to say it's all a conspiracy!)
And drop the respectability politics. You may not have quoted Bill Cosby, but you tried it anyway. An AA can do "everything right," including not following stereotypes, and still get killed. Telling us to "clean up the violence and crime" isn't going to do a damn thing. No matter how much money they make or how well-dressed and Corporate-English they speak, at the end of the day we are black and expendable. LeVar Burton knows this (http://www.theroot.com/buzz/reading-rainbow-hosts-new-lesson-how-avoid-being-shot-police). I know this. Easley knows this. You obviously still don't understand this.
We can look into our own community until the cows come home, but if the macrocosm still wants to oppress and stereotype us, what's your advice then? "Deal with it" ?!
And another thing: "reverse racism" is not a thing. Do not confuse discrimination with racism. Do your own legwork and follow the link: http://callingoutbigotry.tumblr.com/post/51288105158/why-reverse-racism-doesnt-exist
Speaking of legwork... "Charles, do you have any sort of data to back these claims up or is this forum just another typical whine fest?" What, you can comment on an article but can't Google your information? It's infuriating when not only we have to repeat ourselves, but have to tote around sources for folks who can't be bothered to do their own legwork. Go on. Google it. Wikipedia doesn't count. Obviously skewed-and-racist sources also don't count. Good luck!
"The Trayvon story commanded the headlines for a year and let's face it, this kid was on a one way path to prison or the morgue for a while."
The utter disrespect and out-of-touch with reality as to WHY said case took the news for a year (and never would have, if it weren't for social media blowing it out of obscurity!), and the "he was going to get locked up or die anyway"... I'm gobsmacked. I have no words. This is beyond insulting, and the only good response is one I probably should not post on Creative Loafing.
That is all I am going to say to you, because clearly you are not worth more of my time. While I know you're going to not take my comment to heart anyway, there are others that will hopefully come away with something from my words. And if not? Well, venting's good for you. So here I post.
@Asher Webb I am honored by your words. I also believe that you are an example of how we can influence one another regardless of our race, class, gender etc... Historically when I step into a classroom I am sharing my authentic self and my students who are typically a very diverse group benefit from that exchange. It allows us to see and connect with one another on a very profound level.
I applaud you for sharing your stats and historical perspective. I think that sometimes when this type of information comes from someone other than minorities it will have a different impact on the discussion.
Thank you for reading and your contribution to this subject and dialogue!
The hard truth that @HardTruth is unwilling to admit that stereotypes toward African-Americans permeate our culture. These stereotypes may in fact be sub-consciously held -- but nonetheless the outcomes are oppression and tragic situations such as the one discussed in this column. To me it shows that @HardTruth is trying to manipulate the facts of this situation in a very stereotypical manner -- by insinuating that this young man must have been high on drugs or alcohol at the time of his crash and murder with absolutely no evidence. My guess is that @HardTruth would assume any young black male between the ages of 15 and 35 driving late night is under the influence of drugs or alcohol and therefore a target for police brutality. People like @HardTruth would never admit to the fact that institutional racism was invented to keep African-Americans in this country enslaved for 300+ years. Nor would @HardTruth ever admit to police racial profiling, or that the drug war and judicial system in this country have been biased against minorities -- for proof on that just look at the disproportionate sentencing between crack offenders and cocaine offenders. Look at the fact that white Americans have been capitalizing their wealth for centuries, much of it earned on the backs of indentured servants and slaves, whereas African Americans never even got 40 acres and a mule. And to get more into modern American history look at the ways in which African Americans WWII vets were discriminated against during the GI Housing bill that brought economic advancements to their white counterparts.
on stereotypes -- the officer shooting this man was a tragic example of this type of stereotyping:
Mr. Easley's column really is what is needed in this country -- a contribution to a true dialog on stereotyping and race relations in this country. It is the class structure and income inequality that lies beneath many of the ways race has been constructed in this country -- will leave that for a different day...
Charles, do you have any sort of data to back these claims up or is this forum just another typical whine fest? Are AAs sentenced disproportionately or do they commit a(n), overwhelmingly, disporportionate amount of crime which in turn leads to more, but not necessarily disporportionate, sentencing? Any data, at all, whatsoever?
There's claims on here saying the media overreports crimes by AAs. Really? I gave you two links to horrific crimes that were pretty much completely ignored by the mainstream media. The Trayvon story commanded the headlines for a year and let's face it, this kid was on a one way path to prison or the morgue for a while. What do you think would have happened if two white brothers did that to a group of AAs in Wichita? Pretty sure that would have made the news.
You've insinuated that I was assuming all AAs are on social assistance, which I didn't even sort of do, but then I provided a link to that Wal Mart story where looking for a white person in that video is pretty much a game of Where's Waldo. I guess it's just all the AAs in that one city.
Are you sure these are stereotypes? Have you ever stopped to consider whether they're not?
@Peace This officer just happened to be white but I have been stopped and treated in a similar fashion by black police officers some more aggressive than their white counterparts. I said that African-Americans are not immune to the persona that is so pervasive when it comes to black men.
Your point of AA committing a proportional large amount of crime is another media exaggerated fact. The true fact is that AA are sentenced disproportionately than their mainstream counterparts when committing the exact same offense.
AA did not create these historical stereotypes but what is always amusing is that the marginalized group is suppose to fix and prepare a problem that we all have to take responsibility in creating and sustaining.
Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts on this subject.
Did you ever consider that you are being racist by assuming the police officer was not doing his due diligence?
Hard Truth is being obtuse and combative, but most of his points are valid.
It's unfortunate that the man lost his life, whether he was sober, on drugs or alcohol, regardless, it's unfortunate and a tragedy. Let that be clear.
That being said, it's somewhat funny that you are stereotyping all police officers while writing a column about stereotyping. I'm white and male and have been followed many times by police officers for minor things as forgetting about renewing registration etc. Some of the officers were even black, but I didn't jump to the conclusion they were racist. It's actually their job to do those things. As with any profession or people, there are bad apples, but most of the time they are just doing the job according to the law.
You also have no idea the circumstances in this case, and it sounds as if most people reacted how they were supposed to and it was just an unfortunate accident---those things do happen.
Was the girl wrong for calling the police? Of course not, if some stranger came banging on the door in the late hours, I would hope my daughter would immediately call the police. She did the right thing.
The police officer obviously felt threatened and shot, I will say that 10 times seems excessive, but officers do run into hyped up druggies who can withstand a lot of pain due to their drug intake, that is a known fact. If he asked the guy to stop and the guy kept charging him, he was within the law.
Finally, stereotypes DO exist. They exist for all races. I don't doubt it happens to African Americans that some police officers take an extra interest in watching them. Not all though. But what you need to understand is this, stereotypes exist for a reason, and is a defense mechanism. African Americans commit a proportional large amount of the crimes in this country, which is why some of those suspicions exist. Just like other communities that have their own problems, if African Americans feel like stereotyping is a problem that creates burdens for them, need to look into their own community and clean up the violence and crime so those stereotypes will fade with time. Stop reverse racism and blaming everything else on others.
I realized those two stores were kind of old. This one is actually pretty good for a laugh and was in today's news:
Wonder why Wal Mart didn't just shut it down, say come back tomorrow. I guess they were afraid of that media generated violent persona. Seriously, read the story, even you guys have to kind of laugh at this behavior.
Now we're talking! Got a couple of fantastic examples of the media picking and choosing what to report:
The wikipedia entry for the Wichita Horror really doesn't do it justice, do a little googling to get the full details.
I mean, either of these are infinitely more cut and dried than the poor little dead thug Trayvon story, kind of weird how the ultra racist media didn't bring either of these stories to light huh?
@WEWSR I am glad to have an officer's point of view on this topic. You bring up a great point that maybe the officer was intimidated by Ferrell's size but I also think that the persona of the black man as violent and predatory coupled with his size may have contributed to the officer's fears. Thank you for your important and learned perspective on this topic!
As a retired peace officer I was disturbed by the Ferrell shooting. I see it as murder based on the information that has been brought forth publicly. My feeling is this officer was scared and emptied his firearm on Ferrell. What I don't understand is why the other officers didn't intervene.
Although this situation is tragic for all involved and there seems to be an increase in black males being assaulted and or killed. I'm not totally convinced that this incident was totally racially motivated. Looking at the picture of the Officer he appears to be small physically and he overreacted. Regardless the officer overreacted and now a family is suffering a loss that could have been avoided. My condolences to the Ferrell family.
@James it is sad that folks have such little faith in our justice system and that is definitely understandable given how disproportionately minorities are convicted and sentenced to longer jail terms when compared to their mainstream counterparts for the exact offenses. Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts!
@Kishia D You make a great point that the there is a disproportional portrayal of minorities committing crimes because that is what media outlets like to concentrate on but we know that other folks are doing bad deeds as well. Thank you for reading and sharing your views on this topic!
Here is the simple fact, the justice system is set up to prosecute us and protect them. Enough Said!
Wow, this has turned into quite the intellectual discourse. Urban legends, insubstantiable claims, LOT of whining.
Good luck guys. If you check your history, virtually every successful culture has been made so by crying "it's not fair" as loudly and often as possible.
Disgraceful. Just flat out disgraceful.
great article! I live in an area where the population of African American is far less than that of Caucasians but for what ever reason the crimes of AA's are portrayed in the media much more frequently. Which gives you the the impression AA are the only ones committing crimes of any nature. How can we balance the scales when your voice is being minimized?
@Quiet Storm Fairley You are right that there are some things that need clarifying but at the end of the day one thing for me is clear that this incident might have been handled differently if the victim was not a young man of color. Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts.
@La-Trenda A Gift The threats you endured during your undergraduate years is unfortunate but not uncommon. It is sad that some folks still think that the playing field is equal and that as minorities we still have to deal with folks who treat you differently and sometimes unfairly just based on what you look like. Thank you for sharing your story maybe some other folks will see that Jonathan Ferrell was not an isolated incident but part of a larger and historical pattern of behavior towards a specific demographic. Thank you for reading and sharing your insight.
after reading this I do look at some things differently but I still have one question what is the lady who made the call saying or thinking right now I will truly like to know. because I really feel they are leaving out the key pointer of this situation..mr. easley..charles I might say...u always do well on these columns ...
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