Frank, as you repeatedly demonstrate on this site, your insensitivity to the suffering of others is truly mindboggling. Mr. Chesnutt, RIP and God bless.

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Frank, I hope you get inoperable ass cancer and your insurance company drops you since, obviously, that'd be a preexisting condition. What?

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This is an unfortunate situation but gov't would make it much worse. Vic basically got free healthcare. He likely died from complications of the surgery. He was not able to pay back the hospital. The hospital took a risk and now likely will not be paid for their services to Vic. Such is the risk in dealing in the healthcare business. This is where the error comes in. Liberals and Conservatives say that someone must be FORCED (force via gov't) to provide services when they promote big gov't regulation of healthcare (public option, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.) I wonder why none of the bandmates offered to help with the bill? Would Mr. Grooms offer to help pay the $70k? No of course not, it always someone ELSE must be forced to pay for it.

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on checking on Mr. Chesnutt's death, it appears that he passed from a drug overdose.

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Frank, you can help your credibility if you keep the fake Canadian bogey man out of your arguments. If you go into the hospital with spinal cord injuries and the guy next to you has a sore tail bone from taking a spill in a hockey game, you're the one who's going to get high end attention REAL FAST. The guy with the aching kiester is going to have to live with it and the 'system' is just going to have save all that money instead of wasting it to pay a doctor and 16 nurses to treat a glorified bruise. Boo, hoo, hoo.

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Message to C.L. — It is not censorship to block posts by someone as obsessive and deranged as Griffin. Your website is essentially a commercial enterprise and is under no obligation to offer free access to dickheads — just as malls and shopping centers don’t have to allow politicking or distribution of leaflets, etc. It is also obviously not censorship to put an end to a cyberstalker which is certainly what Griffin has become, as MeridithMD. My guess is that Griffin is allowed to show his sorry ass on your site in order to not decrease the number of hits the site gets. As I pointed out before, however, I can’t tell you how many people I know who have said they would take part in the C.L. site’s discussions if “that douchebag Griffin” didn’t ruin the site with his right wing bile. I say it’s time to DUMP THE DOUCHEBAG.

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Frank, like I said the first time, keep Canada out of it for your own sake. If you want to frame your arguments around silly cliches and recycled urban myths, that's fine- that's freedom of speech, BUT, you're the one who sounds "confused". Here's an example: "Of course the person with serious injuries should be treated first. I don’t thing (think?) that is at issue anywhere" But earlier on, you said "What good is insurance if no one will give you health care with the crappy government paper you present to the hospital in Canada. Delayed care is crappy care. Sometime you die waiting." So apparently you think priority of care is an issue in Canada. First you use words like "crappy", "delayed care" and "die waiting" to describe a fictional Canadian hopital, then conveniently, when it suits you, you change your tune. Would you like to back track a little? p.s. the flow of patients goes both ways- for starters, just ask the folks in Vancouver and Montreal.

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My fellow readers, I think in 2010 we should all resolve to turn the other cheek instead of bashing Frank Griffin no matter how hateful he turns towards everyone else. I noticed that in the last few hours on New Years Eve when the rest of us were spending time with family and friends, Frank was spending his time writing several posts on this blog. This tells me that while the rest of us were with loved ones he was all alone and bitter, friendless and with a family that doesn't want him around. Such a man should be pitied, not hated. Let's do our best to tolerate him in the new year. Peace and God bless.

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Thats an intersting idea yea got there Clyde. Usually ideas like this come from the very people that are suffering so. Do not try too hard to imagine that everyone must be suffering the way you are Clyde. Clyde has been offended emotionally so he strikes back the only way he knows how. Maybe Cylde should quit feeling sorry for himself and instead educate himself and then respond in an intelligent way, instead of this silly emotional way to serious topics. Many of you should be thankful a teacher is willing to take a few minutes out of his day to correct the insanity that is called the left.

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Frank, you keep wanting to go double or nothing. I guess you just don't get it with the 'Canada as the straw man' thing. Canada has no dog in this fight, it isn't trying to sell anything, it isn't lecturing, it has no ax to grind. So..., 1. "I am perfectly safe attacking the Canadian..." -You're definitely safe, no doubt about it. In some circles it's easy and cheap politics to knock Canada, but, it doesn't advance your argument. 2. "...you know I can..." -Actually, I don't know. The only thing I know about you is what you've posted on this thread and you sound like a lovable, crusty old curmudgeon who didn't get near enough hugs during his formative years (relax, don't blow a gasket, I'm just kidding). 3. "...cancer sometimes turns into an incurable cancer..." -Domestic sources cite near term survival rates that are slightly higher than Canada and higher than Europe except for a bunch of social democratic countries (the usual suspects, Sweden, etc.) Under universal coverage virtually every person who has cancer makes it to a hospital and is counted in the stats. That's why Britain looks so bad- it does the best job of counting. In a breast cancer study, just a margin of error would make it a virtual tie between the top countries including the US and Canada. No one hears about the 30-40 mil without coverage and others who are under served (by cut-offs, job loss, pre-existing, tapped out for premiums, back-of-the-line, etc.) and fall through the cracks. Without the British yardstick, we don't know if the US is tops in cancer treatment, but nominally, on just cancer (not overall healthcare), based on pro status-quo studies, it looks very good. But in comparison so does Canada where the inclusion rate is far more precise. The US numbers don't really pass the smell test. The industry also has the savvy and incentive to do the p.r., to which it has every right. But who's going to do it for the millions with no coverage or money? I don't see this as a Right, Left issue: Does the conservative layed off auto parts worker really need the indignity of being asked "How do you intend to pay for this?" Lefty geeks working at successful west coast hi-tech companies don't have that worry. Incidently, cancer is incurable, period. There's treatments, amputation and remission that buy time, and in limited cases, vacines before the fact. 4. "I am describing several real situations... The reports are out there even for you to find." -No dice. I won't be doing your work for you. It's incumbent on the person making the claim, to elaborate on it. I'm from Missouri, show me. 5. "...I will not back track..." -Yeah, I didn't think so, but, on the other hand, you're in good company. Like years and years of loosey goosey monetary policy and still no momma and poppa have come forward to claim that bundle of endless joy. 6. "...Canadians were 10 times more likely to move to the USA..." -That's fascinating, and off topic. Hope everyone has a great new year! Has this decade gone by fast!

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