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Comment Archives: stories: Food & Drink: Eat My Charlotte

Re: “This petition against brewery law/distribution revisions is misleading

Full disclosure: I work for a distributor.

First, whomever may be behind the website is irrelevant. MillerCoors and ABInbev would not really be affected by these bills in the slightest. In fact, they would benefit in the long term if the three-tier system were slowly dismantled. They are too busy fighting over tenths of percentage points in market share.

Second, there is no such thing as a non-craft distributor in the Charlotte market. All beer and wine distributors have some craft breweries in their portfolios, and some more than others.

Next, as usual there is only one side presented. Ask the people at Red Oak, NoDa, or Olde Mecklenburg, and they'll likely argue that they are being kept out of the market by distributors.*

*Fun Fact: distributors don't have much say in what goes on the shelves anymore.

Now ask the folks at Foothills, Aviator, Old Hickory, or Highland about their experience working with distributors. I'll not speak for them, but I will wager you will get two completely different answers from each group.

Iin truth, these bills would be a great detriment to all distributors in the state, so they would have a major stake in this battle. It would gut most companies' portfolios. Maybe not immediately, but the potential is there.

But why would this be bad for consumers? Most distributors have management-level employees who act as go-betweens for the suppliers (brewers) and the store chains. They work out the weekly deals, make suggestions for new products to go into the cold boxes and warm shelves during resets (but only suggestions. final say is still made by the chains and usually based on existing sales figures for established brands.) Granted, these sorts of things can be handled by the breweries themselves, but it takes time to build the relationships the distributors have already established. If you compare craft six pack prices around the rest of the US with the Charlotte market you'll quickly see how, at least in our market, distributors are a good thing.

Ask Triple C about how they got into Harris Teeters. I watched this process personally. They had to work really hard at it starting at the store level, and it still it took them about a year just to get on warm shelves in a handful of stores. Longer to get in the cold boxes. Keep in mind they are local and competitively priced.

Now consider the opposite extreme: Ballast Point. Non-local, and their Sculpin IPA is the most expensive six pack in most grocery cold boxes. They signed on to a local distributor and were in the cold boxes within a couple of months.

So there are pros and cons to both distribution models. I am not privy to the cost details for either side. But from my biased point-of-view contracting with a distributor is a good investment. No need for a brewery to build warehousing or order placement and delivery infrastructure. Local marketing and advertising gets handled by the distributor because if it doesn't sell, they lose money not the brewery (current law prohibits selling product back on any step of the three tiers.) I would argue that the time and money saved and reinvested into actually developing and making product far outweighs the short-term DIY method.

But, as mentioned above, I do have a pony in this race.

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Posted by Emory Barrett Pueschel on 04/23/2015 at 9:29 PM

Re: “This petition against brewery law/distribution revisions is misleading

Art, I didn't want to assume who was behind it. So far, no one organization has stepped up and actually claimed credit for that "petition." I can say which distributor(s) were at the root of the e-mail chain that tipped me off to this story: Caffee out of Greensboro, and Carolina Premium out of Charlotte. I don't want to say if they're behind this, because I honestly don't know yet. But if it quacks like a duck...

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Posted by Jonathan Wells on 04/23/2015 at 9:17 PM

Re: “This petition against brewery law/distribution revisions is misleading

Silly me, I should have actually looked at the petition's website. It's clear who is behind it --
"544 of those workers are employed at the state’s largest brewery—the MillerCoors plant in Eden where fulltime wages and benefits average $85,000. Another 5,600 N.C. workers are directly employed by independent beer distributors. The distributor employees have fulltime jobs with highly competitive wages and benefits averaging $71,000."

So yeah, it is (1) the macrobrewers *AND* (2) the large, non-craft distributors. Something the author would have been wise to point out in his article. And this further calls into question the integrity of the people behind the petition. The bills aren't about stifling the growth of homegrown breweries, it's about making life more difficult/expensive for the local breweries in favor of BMC and the distributors. F*** THEM.

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Posted by Art Vandelay on 04/23/2015 at 2:42 PM

Re: “This petition against brewery law/distribution revisions is misleading

So, if the local breweries aren't behind the petition/website -- and you rightly point out how that is unlikely -- who *is* behind the petition/website? My money is on either (1) AB Inbev and its fellow macrobrewers, and/or (2) the large, non-craft distributors.

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Posted by Art Vandelay on 04/23/2015 at 2:34 PM

Re: “Eat With Your Dollars: Chocolate

+ meant to add: maybe we can turn hershey around!

Posted by fair chocolate all the way on 04/10/2015 at 10:27 AM

Re: “Eat With Your Dollars: Chocolate

Hi, glad to have stumbled on this, such an important issue! I hope you'll write about it again. :)

Posted by fair chocolate all the way on 04/10/2015 at 10:25 AM

Re: “Crockpot Recipe: Vegan Black Eyed Pea and Fennel Soup

love it !

Posted by sherese on 03/27/2015 at 10:02 PM

Re: “Eating With Your Dollars: The best fast food money can buy

To everyone with questions about fiber in juicing or including fruit-- it is fine to use a blender in some cases, especially if the vegetable contains mostly soluble fiber or you are throwing in a few good fruits (which typically contain more soluble fiber than leafy greens). The juicing process keeps most of the soluble fiber from the vegetables intact, it just removes the insoluble fiber. Soluble fiber slows digestion just enough to let your body completely absorb all those important nutrients. Leafy greens like the ones in green juice contain a lot of insoluble fiber which at times can push it through your system too fast for you to get the important nutrients. That's why juicing is good. It is an abundance of insoluble fiber that you should watch out for-- since your body cannot digest it, it quickly goes through your system resulting in faster bowel movements, but less time for your body to absorb those important vitamins and minerals. It is not always a bad thing though-- especially if you are constipated it can be a quick fix. So if you are juicing mainly vegetables and can't stand the taste, throwing in a few low sugar fruits with high soluble fiber can be tastier and more beneficial. Or if you are blending your fruits and veggies rather than juicing, make sure you have more soluble fiber rich items than insoluble.

If you are accustomed to the taste of veggies, then by all means, follow Vani's suggestions to a T because it is definitely valuable information. Just remember to always do your research and to keep both sources of fiber in your diet in some form for a healthy digestive system.

Here are a few links to help explain:

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/soluble-fiber-amounts-fruits-vegetables-4408.html

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Posted by SK on 03/26/2015 at 10:03 PM

Re: “Eating With Your Dollars: The best fast food money can buy

To everyone with questions about fiber in juicing or including fruit-- it is fine to use a blender in some cases, especially if the vegetable contains mostly soluble fiber or you are throwing in a few good fruits (which typically contain more soluble fiber than leafy greens). The juicing process keeps most of the soluble fiber from the vegetables intact, it just removes the insoluble fiber. Soluble fiber slows digestion just enough to let your body completely absorb all those important nutrients. Leafy greens like the ones in green juice contain a lot of insoluble fiber which at times can push it through your system too fast for you to get the important nutrients. That's why juicing is good. It is an abundance of insoluble fiber that you should watch out for-- since your body cannot digest it, it quickly goes through your system resulting in faster bowel movements, but less time for your body to absorb those important vitamins and minerals. It is not always a bad thing though-- especially if you are constipated it can be a quick fix. So if you are juicing mainly vegetables and can't stand the taste, throwing in a few low sugar fruits with high soluble fiber can be tastier and more beneficial. Or if you are blending your fruits and veggies rather than juicing, make sure you have more soluble fiber rich items than insoluble.

If you are accustomed to the taste of veggies, then by all means, follow Vani's suggestions to a T because it is definitely valuable information. Just remember to always do your research and to keep both sources of fiber in your diet in some form for a healthy digestive system.

Here are a few links to help explain:

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/soluble-fiber-amounts-fruits-vegetables-4408.html

Posted by SK on 03/26/2015 at 10:03 PM

Re: “An epic list of places to do brunch in Charlotte

theres nothing worse than waiting for a seat for breakfast - ughghghghghghg

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Posted by Cubbiebear on 03/26/2015 at 2:46 PM

Re: “Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives returns to Charlotte

They went to 300 East, too!

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Posted by Hello on 03/14/2015 at 8:36 AM

Re: “Why do the black shows on the Food Network suck ass?

And guess who was right?! (Me.) ALL those shows got canned ... and the Neely's even got a divorce. I sure can call 'em!

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Posted by The Don on 03/10/2015 at 4:16 PM

Re: “Why do the black shows on the Food Network suck ass?

Just bcuz all your used to is borng wite folk don't mean shit. Those black folk got personality an stile an humor. Which of those wite shows have that? Good eats is better? 10$ meals have humor or anything. U must b crazy. U wuld never understand blak cultuer. But u rite bout one show,cooking for real. I don't like it bcuz she acts WITE! U jus like dry ass shows. U suck ass, asshole! U problyh would never step foot in black folk neighborhood would u? So don't judge sumthin u don't nok shit about

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Posted by sister girl on 03/09/2015 at 3:39 PM

Re: “Why do the black shows on the Food Network suck ass?

The person that started this ball to rolling and giving the statement that the reason the black cooking shows are not working is the lack of personality and the lack of focus? That is an utter copout and a racist statement. Let's be perfectly honest the hear. We (meaning African-Amercians) taught white people how to cook. Since the beginning of the slave era, we did all of the cooking for white people. This is yet another example of how they have taken something from someone else to make their profit, nothing more and nothing less. So, to constantly say that nothing positive comes from and African-American (and that's pretty much what you've said) is the worse anyone could ever say or believe.

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Posted by utterly pissed off on 03/07/2015 at 12:29 PM

Re: “Eat With Your Dollars: Chocolate

I just read this article. I am completely baffled. I buy Theo dark chocolate because it's Organic and Fair Trade. This study makes it look like the ugly giants (Mars, Hershey, Kraft!!!!) do it better, producing chocolate with no lead or cadmium. Confusing!
http://www.asyousow.org/our-work/environmental-health/toxic-enforcement/lead-and-cadmium-in-food/

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Posted by Kiana on 02/21/2015 at 7:32 PM

Re: “5 must-have hot meals to eat in cold Charlotte

Lebowski's, meatloaf. Nough said.

Posted by Jo Covington Harashima on 02/21/2015 at 12:23 AM

Re: “Rock and Rye knocks colds out

Rock & Rye Is The Very Best!!!!! It Works Quicker Than Any Med I Have Taken!!!

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Posted by Kim on 02/19/2015 at 10:11 PM

Re: “Homemade Fig Newtons

fake and gay

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Posted by UrAnFagit on 02/10/2015 at 11:11 AM

Re: “Banana pudding fail ... again

I would say the brown sugar in your recipe might be the cause of the color. I only use brown sugar in butterscotch pudding.. I still can't figure out the grainy unless its the salt or the flour but I sifted mine it still turned out grainy.. I didn't use evaporated milk because its too rich I used whole milk and heavy whipping cream which I thought would get rid of the grainy but no such luck.. I am totally stumped.

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Posted by Shirlene Boone on 02/02/2015 at 11:27 AM

Re: “Banana pudding fail ... again

You and I are having the same problem. My pudding did not turn out brown but it is grainy beats me .. I have tried and tried and I know there is a secret somewhere.. but no one is sharing that secret. LOL

Posted by Shirlene Boone on 02/02/2015 at 11:23 AM

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