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Re: “Rude or racist?

After just moving to charlotte about a month ago...i can say almost all both white and black are pretty socially awkward and rude in general. Was actually pretty shocked at the over all selfish attitude this city carries. So much for southern hospitality.

Posted by Matt Maynard on 11/17/2017 at 12:35 AM

Re: “Hannah Barnhardt is Charlotte's Real Observer

Her wit combined with her powerful observation skills blows me away. When I viewed her work at the show, I was hooked. They way that she communicates her observations through sketching and words is a powerful combination. I am so pleased to see this article!!

Posted by Elizabeth Palmisano on 11/15/2017 at 10:56 PM

Re: “Rude or racist?

After moving down here to Charlotte i can say most everyone ive met have been pretty socially awkward and pretty rude, and very selfish both black and white....me and my gf will be moving soon :)

Posted by matt m on 11/15/2017 at 2:10 AM

Re: “Vi Lyles Is The Only Choice For Mayor

Vi Lyles stuck the people of North Mecklenburg and anyone who travels north of Charlotte with tolls for the next 50 years, when she cast the 46% deciding vote in January, 2016 to support tolls at a city council meeting. I was there with over 40 other people who spoke out against the tolls, and were ignored by her. She condescendingly stated that the people in Lake Norman needed to find "alternate routes". I can't wait until you morons that voted for her down in Charlotte get stuck with toll lanes.

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Posted by Corgi Mom on 11/08/2017 at 9:37 PM

Re: “Vi Lyles Is The Only Choice For Mayor

I wonder if she will last out her first term without getting carted away in handcuffs?

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Posted by Pogo on 11/08/2017 at 7:06 PM

Re: “Vi Lyles Is The Only Choice For Mayor

Lyles voted against allocating $18.5 million to affordable housing, instead using that money for improvements to Ovens & Bojangles and reserving tourism tax money for the billionaires and their failed sucker - er - soccer bid. She also supported giving over a half-billion dollars to a corrupt foreign company to build $20-per-trip toll lanes on I-77, a project that the NCDOT admitted will do nothing to relieve congestion. Kenny Smith has been on the right side of both these crucial issues.

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Posted by Garth Vader on 11/06/2017 at 2:28 PM

Re: “Vi Lyles Is The Only Choice For Mayor

She should be in jail for giving city contracts to her son's company.

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Posted by Emily Dinwiddie-Cole on 11/02/2017 at 6:30 PM

Re: “It's Time for Charlotte to Wipe Away Confederate Stains

I agree with the gentleman who said where does it stop. What if the statue of Andrew Jackson offended a Cherokee person because he signed the order for The removal of the Cherokee. If you keep removing statues you are doing it in Fear. Don't give in to fear.

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Posted by Wanda on 08/19/2017 at 1:23 AM

Re: “It's Time for Charlotte to Wipe Away Confederate Stains

I hear you, Brian. But most of the more offensive monuments paying tribute to and honoring civil war "heroes" were erected decades after -- and, in the case of one Charlotte monument, more than a century after -- the end of the civil war. These were erected by those who wanted to skew the reality that this war was about slavery and exploitation of blacks in this country. They were erected as slaps in the face of citizens of the United States whose ancestors were ripped from their native Africa. Period.

Also, I think you may be confusing hatred with anger when you refer to "hatred that exist on all sides." The hatred comes from the historic racist oppressors; anger is a result of that hatred. I believe equating white supremacist hatred with black anger (and that of non-black allies) is simplistic, at best.

My clarion call in this column is not about erasing history. There are many ways to remember this great country's shameful past (and my juxtaposition of "great" with "shameful" here is not a contradiction; nations and individuals alike can harbor both "greatness" and "shame"). Bestowing honor on those who have consistently and purposefully made life miserable for black citizens of the United States is not the way to remember that past. It is deliberately hurtful.

Garrett Epps wrote a terrific piece on this in the Atlantic in June, an excerpt of which is in italics below:

Would reducing the bronzed omnipresence of the Confederate General Staff really eliminate 'history'?

Lets look at real history. Americans tend to assume that Southern segregation was a 'natural' legacy of antebellum slavery. The truth is far more complicated. After the Civil War, the South went through a period of transition -- not simply during 'Reconstruction' (which ended in about 1877) but for the two decades that followed. There was no overall system of separation; gross racism and discrimination existed alongside tentative inter-racial cooperation and political coalition-building. Until the first decade of the twentieth century, black Southerners continued to vote, to serve on juries, and to hold state and local office. The last first-generation black member of the U.S. House left office in 1901.

Only with the rise of the U.S. as an imperial power -- forcibly dominating people of color from San Juan to Manila -- did the idea of legal white supremacy become acceptable to a majority of whites in North or South. Thus began the era of segregation -- a system that subordinated black Southerners economically, disfranchised them politically, and isolated them in public and private space. Whats called the 'nadir' of race relations was the early 20th Century, not the 1870s and 80s.

The year 1890 saw the first segregation-era Southern state constitution, in South Carolina, strip blacks of the right to vote. That same year, the giant Lee statue went up in Richmond. Virginia itself disfranchised black voters in 1902. The monuments to Jefferson Davis and Jeb Stuart went up in 1907; the horseback statue of Jackson was unveiled in 1919. All across the South during these years, these statues went up to mark the triumph of the once-outlandish idea of segregation.

Segregation had an official myth: "The white South would have freed its slaves voluntarily if not for Northern meddling. The North destroyed the South because it coveted its natural resources and its cheap labor. After the War, corrupt 'carpetbaggers' and vile Southern white 'scalawags' seized power with Northern bayonets, upheld by ignorant, illiterate blacks. Heroic white conservatives finally did away with the 'corrupt Negro vote,' restored to power the Souths natural leaders, and returned black Southerners to their proper subordinate place."

Blacks played no part in any of Southern history. They had no past, and no future, in white America.

As New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu said in his recent speech, 'These statues are not just stone and metal. They are not just innocent remembrances of a benign history. These monuments purposefully celebrate a fictional, sanitized Confederacy; ignoring the death, ignoring the enslavement, and the terror that it actually stood for.'


To Brian (and anyone else who's gotten this far): If you're interested in these issues, I highly recommend reading Epps' entire piece at the Atlantic, as his argument is eloquent and well-thought-out.

Yours sincerely,

Mark Kemp
Editor
Creative Loafing

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Posted by Mark Kemp on 08/17/2017 at 12:57 PM

Re: “It's Time for Charlotte to Wipe Away Confederate Stains

When are we going to tear down the holocaust museums, monuments for WW1, WW2, Vietnam War?? Where does it stop? Should we eradicate all references,written words, photos relating to the Civil War like it never happened or just the parts that the few aren't happy with. Unfortunately for all the war did happen and it is part of our history no matter how ugly it is, to remind us that these things should never be allowed to happen again. We need to get on with our collective lives and end the teaching and practice of hatred that exist on all sides of our races.

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Posted by Brian M Lachance Sr. on 08/16/2017 at 1:06 PM

Re: “An open letter to a former hero who seems to have lost her way

Maybe Tara grew up.

Posted by Mike on 07/31/2017 at 8:58 AM

Re: “'CL' Music Issue 2017

We're super happy to have you back, Mindy. And check out our archives from January, when we began our local-only coverage of music, arts and more. We've covered a lot of ground already but have much more ground to cover. And we're looking forward to every minute of it.

Posted by Mark Kemp (CL editor) on 07/25/2017 at 5:41 PM

Re: “'CL' Music Issue 2017

Today I randomly picked up a Creative Loafing and read Mark Kemp's Editor's Note in this week's issue. I just want to say a big THANK YOU for your musical coverage turn around. I stopped reading Creative Loafing several years ago specifically because the local coverage had dropped off dramatically. The music scene is truly vibrant here in Charlotte and I am ridiculously excited to hear about the plans you and the Creative Loafing staff have for your future music scene coverage. I used to be a dedicated Creative Loafing reader and I'm looking forward to becoming one again.

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Posted by Mindy Barker on 07/21/2017 at 3:03 PM

Re: “Greg Olsen's Contract Demands Bring Up a Disturbing Comparison

"Fan reaction fell heavily on the side of the Panthers."
"Among Panthers fans, Olsen's comments inspired indifference."

Without sourcing these two statements, they're nothing but stupid talk out of your ass.

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Posted by Garth Vader on 07/18/2017 at 1:10 PM

Re: “Cultural Continuity is Essential

You've got your multi-million-dollar transit boondoggles mixed up. South End had the trolley, not the streetcar.

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Posted by Garth Vader on 07/13/2017 at 10:02 PM

Re: “Eight Reasons To Hate My Home State

Shouldn't someone who writes for a paycheck know the difference between LESS/LEAST (amount) and FEWER/FEWEST (quantity)? Ms. Jionde makes the mistake at least twice. Here, let me provide the proofreading:

"FEWER" hospitals in rural areas.

"the schools with the FEWEST resources and opportunities."

Also, "bussed" means "kissed". The word you're looking for is "bused".

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Posted by Garth Vader on 07/12/2017 at 12:07 PM

Re: “Eight Reasons To Hate My Home State

I look forward to more lessons on oppression bullshit from this new ...contributor. Lets see, complain about obesity and lack of healthy food, yet turn around and praise 5$ junk food. I expect nothing less from someone who can't distinguish a left turn from a u-turn. And of course blame Trump because, Trump. CL hope you can find contributors who have something to offer, other than the usual angry,"victims" who need to tell everyone how racist they and pretty much everything in the world is towards black people.

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Posted by cl reader on 07/12/2017 at 9:15 AM

Re: “Eight Reasons To Hate My Home State

Charlotte is a fantastic and vibrant City I'm just not sure that someone that's 23 years old and can't pass a driver's test is really ready to live in the city of Charlotte maybe you should move somewhere where you don't have to drive. And that's my only comment about your column everything else you said was useless banter .

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Posted by Jim Freeman on 07/08/2017 at 7:28 AM

Re: “Eight Reasons To Hate My Home State

Where to even start with this garbage? I'm not going to comment on you doing a U-Turn if it wasn't allowed. You're 23 years old, no excuse! Not to mention TWO of your reasons are ONLY because of something alcohol related? Wow. First world problems my dear.

1. There is already a bill in the works to change this law. It wasn't "Just ruled". The case was in 1979! I don't condone rape, but maybe women should be more careful with who they "consent" with before they have to "change their mind". If you have to change your mind during sex, maybe you need to be more careful judging who you pull your panties down for. If the man starts to hurt the woman during sex, and she says no, they CAN be found guilty of other crimes such as assault, etc. So they're not going to get away scot free if the woman has proof and doesn't wait 30 years to say something.

2. Rural is called "rural" exactly for that reason. There's less of everything. If people don't like that, move to the city! Accessibility is what makes the city grow! On the opposite side of the coin, you have people complaining about how "urban sprawl" is taking over. You can't have it both ways.

3. Maybe those without ID shouldn't be voting huh? You hear all about voter fraud these days. It's not hard to get a state issued ID, even if you don't drive. It's not rocket science and not expensive. Provided you're here LEGALLY of course. Ohhh wait, you want illegals voting?
I bet those who claim they "can't afford it", are the same ones who are on food stamps but blow money on beer and cigarettes anyway.

4 -5. I don't have children and I graduated long ago so I don't know much about the schools here. However, I can say, Have you seen the behavior of 99% of these so called "economically disadvantaged" children? Maybe those "brownest" of the kids are also the ones who cause the most trouble? Ohh wait I guess that's racist to say such a thing? Throwing money at them isn't going to help that's for sure, regardless of color. Education is as much of a parent responsibility as it is the schools themselves. Again, look at the how these families are that have the kids failing. 99% of them don't take responsibility as parents. The school can only do much, and as I said earlier, throwing money at isn't going to help.

6. Obama only won 49% of the popular vote in 2008 and only 48% in 2012 in NC. Your point is?

7-8 If you bought your liquor on Saturday, having it on Sunday wouldn't be a problem. That simple! Or even better. A fascist state?? All because of alcohol? REALLY? Maybe you want to look up your definition of "Fascism".

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Posted by Moth Monster Man on 07/05/2017 at 9:47 PM

Re: “Eight Reasons To Hate My Home State

Good luck with the DMV. After 20 years in Florida, NC feels like I died and went to heaven.

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Posted by Bob Evans on 07/05/2017 at 3:31 PM

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